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9:59 pm
January 12, 2010
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maciejm
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Hello everyone,
I am an Environmental Engineer and Scientist from Australia. I am keen to take part in this project (Life support systems and food).
I hope my knowledge and skills will be helpful to push this great project and take private initiative to the moon.
Like everybody here my passion is to bring space travel to a common people and hopefully experience weightlessness without spending $200.000  (ref:Virgin Galactic). I believe that this day is close and I will help as much as I can to make this dream come true.
Looking forward to productive cooperation.
maciejm
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10:03 pm
January 12, 2010
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Rocket-To-The-Moon
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It is great to have you onboard with us. What part of Australia are you from?
Feel free to take charge of the design of the life support system. Post your thoughts and ideas to that forum so that the rest of the team can try to validate your ideas and make suggestions
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10:03 pm
January 12, 2010
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Luke Maurits
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Post edited 4:04 am – January 13, 2010 by Luke Maurits
Welcome aboard! It's great to have you here, your expertese is with stuff we haven't thought about much yet.
Whereabouts in Australia are you? I'm in Adelaide, we have one other technical Australian in Adelaide and one non-technical fan in Sydney.
People with a passion for low cost space travel and technical experience are exactly the kind of people we need.
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10:43 pm
January 12, 2010
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Luke Maurits
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Rocket-To-The-Moon said:
Feel free to take charge of the design of the life support system. Post your thoughts and ideas to that forum so that the rest of the team can try to validate your ideas and make suggestions
Yep, this is how you can be most productive.
It may be worth noting that so far most of our life support talk has been atmosphere related – injecting O2 into the cabin and scrubbing CO2 out of it, and repressurising the whole cabin after EVA with a blend of 20% O2 80% something inert (e.g. nitrogen, helium, whatever). While we could definitely use more detail on a system to do that, so far nobody has really said anything about temperature control or humidity control, which are important as well. If you could start brainstorming ideas, requirements etc. related to those parts of life support, you'd be doing us a huge favour.
There is a Wiki page for the Environmental Control System which is currently practically empty. Feel free to put material there if you like, although our general rule of thumb is that new ideas (and for the ECS, practically everything is new) are pitched on the forums first and then migrate onto the Wiki if there seems to be a consensus that it is a good idea. Of course, any idea is better than no idea, which is what we have right now.
Oh, there's also the issue of waste disposal which we haven't thought about too much. We'd really like to avoid handling it the way Apollo did (you can read about that by googling "Apollo bags"!) but we're not sure if we'll have the room for much better. The space toilet used in Soyuz/Mir systems (see, e.g., here) might be a good source of inspiration.
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11:54 pm
January 12, 2010
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maciejm
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Nice to meet you guys,
I live in Victoria, on Mornington Peninsula, south of Melbourne, but originally I come from Poland.
I would like to be in charge of the life support system, but I just got here , so maybe later.
At the moment I am looking at the available material, but as I mentioned in one of the posts life-> support system, would be very similar (with few differences) to HVAC system which is used to air-condition offices. Air conditioning has the same bases as life support systems , filtration removal of fumes and particles such as dust, but also maintaining stable temperature, humidity and oxygen levels… although sometimes in offices this doesn't happen. Instead of fresh air entering the building, here we would have a air tank and CO2 scrubber. I also made few comments about food. Food is my thing. I am looking at some options that would be available off the shelf and repackaged (SAFEWAY) to reduce the cost.
Cheers
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2:32 am
January 13, 2010
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Luke Maurits
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maciejm said:
Nice to meet you guys,
I live in Victoria, on Mornington Peninsula, south of Melbourne, but originally I come from Poland.
Ah, nice! I visited Krakow in 2007, it was a beautiful city.
maciejm said:
I would like to be in charge of the life support system, but I just got here , so maybe later.
Bear in mind that right now you are the only person even remotely qualified to talk about this sort of thing in detail, so there is no problem in you taking charge if you are comfortable. Just give it the best shot you can based on what you know – if something you propose is suboptimal then eventually somebody else will come along and comment on it. Nobody is going to blame you for anything!
maciejm said:
I also made few comments about food. Food is my thing. I am looking at some options that would be available off the shelf and repackaged (SAFEWAY) to reduce the cost.
Cheers
There are a few requirements for the mission menu on the Wiki, but not much. The most important one, I think, is that it be a low residue diet. Chances are, no matter what toilet solution we come up with it's going to be something of a hassle to use, so we'll want to use it as little as possible.
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6:12 am
January 13, 2010
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maciejm
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Bear in mind that right now you are the only person even remotely qualified to talk about this sort of thing in detail, so there is no problem in you taking charge if you are comfortable. Just give it the best shot you can based on what you know – if something you propose is suboptimal then eventually somebody else will come along and comment on it. Nobody is going to blame you for anything!
OK, sounds good. Ill try to approach all the aspects of life support including space toilet and food.
I believe that simplifying the design is the way to go. Anyway Russians could send man to the moon decades ago… so can we.
I will try to copy some existing concepts and reduce complicity.
There are a few requirements for the mission menu on the Wiki, but not much. The most important one, I think, is that it be a low residue diet. Chances are, no matter what toilet solution we come up with it's going to be something of a hassle to use, so we'll want to use it as little as possible.
I had a look at this link, it reminds me of the food served on a plane. White bread and overcooked fish.
I will make sure I stick to guidelines.
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6:45 am
January 13, 2010
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Luke Maurits
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maciejm said:
I believe that simplifying the design is the way to go.
Yes! This is absolutely the way to go, simplicity is the number one rule of life here at CSTART. If you haven't already read it, check out our design philosophy to see our beliefs on keeping things simple.
Good luck and have fun! Let us know about your thoughts and ideas as they come.
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