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6:05 am
November 22, 2009


Luke Maurits

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There are a few crucial design decisions which we still do not seem to have reached a definite conclusion and and which are really holding us back by virtue of our not being able to make other decisions until these first ones are taken care of.  Some obvious ones include whether or not the engines in our modular boosters will be solid, liquid or hybrid fuelled and exactly how our various systems and supplies are going to be distributed between the service module and command module.

In order to knock these decisions out, how do people feel about scheduling highly-targetted "bursts" of work?  Say, we decide that a particular weekend is going to be dedicated to the booster fuel decision problem.  We give one or two weeks advance notice so that everybody interested can read up on the relevant subjects and come up with some ideas.  On that weekend we all get together on IRC or Skype or something and discuss nothing but the one targetted issue for that weekend's "burst".  If this works well maybe we can make it a regular thing and have bursts every month or so?

What do people think about this approach?  The biggest problem with this that I can forsee is probably the potential for timezone issues.  If we could find a way to minimise those, would people be interested in this sort of thing?

Main workgroup: Navigation and Guidance. Side interests: Propulsion, Computer Systems, Communications. Skill set: Mathematics major, good knowledge of Newtonian physics, decent programming (Python, C, Java, PHP)

9:26 am
November 22, 2009


Rocket-To-The-Moon

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I think this is a really good idea. Having real time communication will really help to speed things up. I sort of like using Wave for the realtime chat because then we have a hard copy of what was discussed (Here is an example of a wave that we did in realtime…I'm not sure if this link will work).

With Wave we could have multiple waves going on at the same time and the people could jump between them.

Just for planning purposes lets set 28 November @ 2100Z, this seems like a time that should allow most of our current members to be awake. This time isn't necessarily for Wave, but for whatever system we decide to use.


Thoughts?

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10:38 am
November 22, 2009


Luke Maurits

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That Wave link doesn't work for me. :(

2100Z is 0630 for me, and is 0230 for Zvan in Mumbai.  These aren't very ideal times, but I'm not sure we can do an awful lot better.  1300Z would be 2230 for me, 0800 in New York and 1830 in Mumbai.  This is perhaps a little better but might be too early for a lot of our US members.

I'm glad you approve of the overall idea, though.

Main workgroup: Navigation and Guidance. Side interests: Propulsion, Computer Systems, Communications. Skill set: Mathematics major, good knowledge of Newtonian physics, decent programming (Python, C, Java, PHP)

11:28 am
November 22, 2009


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1:29 am
November 23, 2009


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An IRC room would be great for this. And we should cache all the chat sessions, does any one know any bot for this?

I am not great with IRC systems

1:41 am
November 23, 2009


Luke Maurits

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I have a moderate preference for IRC over Wave for these sorts of things.  The invite-only nature of Wave makes it feel a little exclusionary.  Only people who have had invites can participate, and even when people have invites, Wave is new and mysterious to a lot of people.  It's also conceivable (though perhaps not likely) that Google will lose interest in it and development will slow down.  In contrast, IRC is completely open, very familiar, dead simple and is going to be around forever.  People can lurk in an IRC chat without contributing to the conversation without "wasting" our finite Wave invites.  The fact that Wave provides a hardcopy afterward is not a big deal because, as Rizwan has pointed out, it's really easy to just cache the contents of an IRC chat and make it available on the web.  The Freenode network people provide a free service to open source and non-profit orgs which would be perfect for us.

How does everybody feel about making our first "burst" focused on finally choosing a booster engine type (solid, liquid, hybrid)?  If people like this idea I may write up an announcement in the PW forum later tonight.

Main workgroup: Navigation and Guidance. Side interests: Propulsion, Computer Systems, Communications. Skill set: Mathematics major, good knowledge of Newtonian physics, decent programming (Python, C, Java, PHP)

8:24 pm
November 23, 2009


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By the way, if anybody can think of a cooler name than "work bursts" for these, feel free to yell it out.

I got the idea from the NetBSD project's "hackathons", where people get together on IRC for a weekend to close NetBSD bug reports or upgrade software in the package management repositories, etc.  "Engineerathon" doesn't really sound anywhere near as good, though.

The only other similar concept I am familiar with is the "sprint" from software development, which I suppose isn't too bad of a name.

As a slight aside: reading the Wikipedia article for sprinting has just made me reaslise that maybe we should look to the agile development movement for ideas on design principles.

Main workgroup: Navigation and Guidance. Side interests: Propulsion, Computer Systems, Communications. Skill set: Mathematics major, good knowledge of Newtonian physics, decent programming (Python, C, Java, PHP)

9:35 pm
November 28, 2009


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should we add each other for google wave as well? i have one and it looks like several others do as well. 

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