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9:33 pm
July 6, 2010


Luke Maurits

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Post edited 11:18 pm – July 6, 2010 by Luke Maurits


I have posted previously that I observed most sounding rockets use a two-parachute system, and included a diagram and admitted to not quite understanding how it works.   I've done some more reading and learned some more about this.  The trick was finding out the name that this approach is most often refered to by – a "dual deployment recovery system"/p>

The logic is as follows: apogee is a great time to deploy a parachute because the rocket is moving very slowly compared to any other point in its flight, so the deployment is fairly non-violent and stable.  However, if you deploy a large enough chute at apogee to land the rocket at a safe vertical velocity by itself, the descent takes a very long time, and the rocket can drift horizontally a very long way from the launch site, making recovery a pain.  So instead one deploys a smaller drogue chute at apogee.  This isn't enough to softly land the rocket by itself, but it slows it down enough that one can land safely by deploying a larger main chute at a much lower altitude, closer to the ground.  Since the rocket still falls relatively quickly under the drogue chute alone, it doesn't drift too far during the longest part of the descent.  Perfectly sensible, and something we should do.

The reason I couldn't understand how the deployment works seems to be that the diagram I copied when making that earlier post had the parachutes arranged in the incorrect order.  The standard arrangement seems to have the drogue chute packed above the main chute, i.e. nearer to the nose cone – I can absolutely see how this works.

This leaves the overall composition of the recovery section of the rocket body specified, which is a good move forward.

EDIT: Here's a good diagram:

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10:59 am
August 18, 2010


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I'm the author of the above diagram and I want to point that it the drogue and main parachute can be reversed as well. In fact having the drogue in middle might even be more popular configuration. I drew the diagram based on the sounding rocket project I was working on at that time and parachute positions were dictated by the needs of the payload. 

Putting the drogue in the middle has the advantage of rocket separating into two piece of approximately same length and likely to go into a tumble, as opposed to a backend glide (more drift). Also, the shear pins preventing the main parachute compartment from opening don't have to carry the weight of the booster and thus the premature deployment of the main parachute (because of shear pins breaking before ejection) is less likely. 

Feel free to contact me ([email protected]) if you want more details regarding dual deployment.

1:36 am
August 21, 2010


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Hi Pavel,

Thanks very much for your comment.  I just realised that I've hot-linked to your image above, sorry for being so rude, I hope it hasn't caused you any inconvenience.  I don't think CSTART forum posts pull an awful lot of traffic, but if you want us to re-host it locally please just say so.

It's good to know that both arrangements of the main and drogue chute are feasible, I was wondering if some diagrams I had seen around the place where incorrect.  Last we discussed this, I think we were starting to consider side-deploying chutes to eliminate the mechanical complexity of a rocket body made of separable sections.  I don't suppose you have any knowledge or experience with such arrangements?

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April 3, 2011


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Hey guys,

Dual deployment as applied to high powered rocketry will not function for
extreme altitude attempts, and as most folks in HPR have experienced when
making the step from level 2 to 3 attempts, designing a reliable recovery
system is an art in itself. The difference between recovering from 6 or 7km
& 20 to 30km is massive, no less 100 km.

Best to download the Irving Aerospace recovery system design manual &
brush up, it’s the bible on the subject.

 

http://www.airborne-sys.com/fi….._guide.pdf

 

 

4:14 am
April 6, 2011


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Good point. I haven't yet thought of the parachute system. I am anticipating, though, that it will be quite difficult to determine.

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